
amitjoey
07-09 06:08 PM
Lawyers websites, and personal blogs are picking up on the "Flowers to USCIS" story. We need to make a big effort this evening, so more of the mainstream media is aware.
http://www.bibdaily.com/
http://www.bibdaily.com/
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abq_gc
08-19 12:13 PM
My 2 paisa ( though it has no value anymore anywhere)
First and foremost we have to realize that we are fee paying customers to USCIS. We have a right to demand better customer service. The reports and other kind of data they are releasing currently is an insult to the high skilled immigrant community. It is time we call out that the king (USCIS) has no clothes. They have been feeding us garbage disguised as reports and offical data. Anybody with a high school degree would say that the reports and data provided have zero value since they are not complete.
How do we get the right kind of information from USCIS?
Here are the steps
a) Send letters to the Dept chief asking for the data we need and wait for 3-4 weeks for a response. ( Data we should ask for, apps pending with PD's and EB category for every month starting from 1998)
b) Send another letter to the President and copy USCIS chief on that. Wait for another 3-4 weeks
c) If we do not get any satisfactory information after the previous 2 steps and 2 months of waiting, we should do a relay protest in DC and in front of all the USCIS centers until they provide us with the exact data.
By doing this we woould have put enough spotlight on USCIS and also our problmes would have got enough coverage in the media. From here we can try and work with the various agencies to push for our other agendas. Now we will have a clearer picture of what the situation is and ask for the right things. At the same time the agencies will have the better information with them to look in to our issues.
Comments are welcome.
I agree.. the amount of fees paid to USCIS keeps on increasing every year and the customer service degrades proportionally every year.. they need to understand that they are there for US(the legal immigrant community).. we have to make USCIS's proceedings more transparent and make them more accountable.. whats happenening with EB2-I can very well happen with EB-3 in the future...once they become current....
First and foremost we have to realize that we are fee paying customers to USCIS. We have a right to demand better customer service. The reports and other kind of data they are releasing currently is an insult to the high skilled immigrant community. It is time we call out that the king (USCIS) has no clothes. They have been feeding us garbage disguised as reports and offical data. Anybody with a high school degree would say that the reports and data provided have zero value since they are not complete.
How do we get the right kind of information from USCIS?
Here are the steps
a) Send letters to the Dept chief asking for the data we need and wait for 3-4 weeks for a response. ( Data we should ask for, apps pending with PD's and EB category for every month starting from 1998)
b) Send another letter to the President and copy USCIS chief on that. Wait for another 3-4 weeks
c) If we do not get any satisfactory information after the previous 2 steps and 2 months of waiting, we should do a relay protest in DC and in front of all the USCIS centers until they provide us with the exact data.
By doing this we woould have put enough spotlight on USCIS and also our problmes would have got enough coverage in the media. From here we can try and work with the various agencies to push for our other agendas. Now we will have a clearer picture of what the situation is and ask for the right things. At the same time the agencies will have the better information with them to look in to our issues.
Comments are welcome.
I agree.. the amount of fees paid to USCIS keeps on increasing every year and the customer service degrades proportionally every year.. they need to understand that they are there for US(the legal immigrant community).. we have to make USCIS's proceedings more transparent and make them more accountable.. whats happenening with EB2-I can very well happen with EB-3 in the future...once they become current....

calgirl
07-21 07:39 PM
I'm confused!
I am July 2nd filer from last year. I did receive a FP notice in Oct 2007 but couldn't go for it. I sent a letter asking for another date but TSC..So go figure!
Now my FP is not done and I am current next month.
My company does only paper based filing for EAD. (Is e-filing costly?)
Will I not get any FP notice again?
I have tried calling TSC and no response after putting a SR. I tried dropping in at an ASC here and they didn't take my FP either..
Does paper based filing not trigger FP? Is it slower?
FP is mainly for E-filing folks, paper filers need not take FP.
I am July 2nd filer from last year. I did receive a FP notice in Oct 2007 but couldn't go for it. I sent a letter asking for another date but TSC..So go figure!
Now my FP is not done and I am current next month.
My company does only paper based filing for EAD. (Is e-filing costly?)
Will I not get any FP notice again?
I have tried calling TSC and no response after putting a SR. I tried dropping in at an ASC here and they didn't take my FP either..
Does paper based filing not trigger FP? Is it slower?
FP is mainly for E-filing folks, paper filers need not take FP.
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Ahimsa
10-25 01:13 PM
... Our stand alone SKULL bill - not sure whether that will be considered by Democrats. Democrats will probably address the Dream Act before they take over the SKULL bill...
... Yes, but the immigration hearings already happened. People already have a clear indication on what the public wants. Lou Dobbs is still out there reminding them...
1. Why do you keep mentioning SKIL bill clearly as SKULL bill in all your posts?
2. Did people clearly indicate they did not want reliefs for EB immigrants - did they accept Lou Dobbs' lies on H-1B such as "H-1Bs do not pay taxes, are cheap labor, are stealing american jobs"?
... Yes, but the immigration hearings already happened. People already have a clear indication on what the public wants. Lou Dobbs is still out there reminding them...
1. Why do you keep mentioning SKIL bill clearly as SKULL bill in all your posts?
2. Did people clearly indicate they did not want reliefs for EB immigrants - did they accept Lou Dobbs' lies on H-1B such as "H-1Bs do not pay taxes, are cheap labor, are stealing american jobs"?
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Karthikthiru
10-08 12:59 PM
I came to US in 1996 as a student and graduated in 1999. Since then I have switched jobs and I am currently with a Priority date of oct, 2006(EB2). Even within this employer first they filed under EB3 even though it could have been filed under EB2 (Not becasue they are bad - becasue the employer don't know much about immigration). After I requested the employer, they filed a new labor on Oct, 2006. So if the priority date is based on the years of experience, it will be nice for me. But the main issue that all of us are facing is VISA availabilty. If this can be taken care, all of the issues will be taken care
Overall the current immigration system is screwed-up. It really needs a major change. That is the main problem
Thanks
Karthik
having been in the US since 2001, losing out my LC/PD to the dot-com bust and finally ending up with a PD of 2006, I second that. PD should be based on number of years of experience or years of stay in the US or amount of taxes paid till now or something like that.
In any case what we WANT is very different from what we usually get from this immigration system and there are bigger more important battles for IV to fight. Look, if there is no retrogression PD almost does not matter!! THATS the right fix. END RETROGRESSION!
Overall the current immigration system is screwed-up. It really needs a major change. That is the main problem
Thanks
Karthik
having been in the US since 2001, losing out my LC/PD to the dot-com bust and finally ending up with a PD of 2006, I second that. PD should be based on number of years of experience or years of stay in the US or amount of taxes paid till now or something like that.
In any case what we WANT is very different from what we usually get from this immigration system and there are bigger more important battles for IV to fight. Look, if there is no retrogression PD almost does not matter!! THATS the right fix. END RETROGRESSION!
Naveen
07-09 04:05 PM
Added this info to the profile of Mr.Gonzalez in Wikipedia and also to USCIS and DOS.
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krishnam70
07-11 07:02 PM
Are you a journalist by any chance? :D
As i mentioned in the thread Gandhigiri in one of my first posts to support the flower campaign idea.. Rosa parks was the inspiration for MLK in this country for the civil disobedience This is very similar to how Gandhiji got the idea of Satyagraha from - guess who? Kasturba Gandhi.
We need to carry on more things like this in a non-violent way at grassroots level to increase the visibility. Imagine what Gandhiji did in the 1940's with the entire media controlled by the Brits and with no other medium of communication available. We are in a far better situation right now we have access to media, can create our own blogs and we should use it to make our presence felt and highlight the injustice done to us.
As i mentioned in the thread Gandhigiri in one of my first posts to support the flower campaign idea.. Rosa parks was the inspiration for MLK in this country for the civil disobedience This is very similar to how Gandhiji got the idea of Satyagraha from - guess who? Kasturba Gandhi.
We need to carry on more things like this in a non-violent way at grassroots level to increase the visibility. Imagine what Gandhiji did in the 1940's with the entire media controlled by the Brits and with no other medium of communication available. We are in a far better situation right now we have access to media, can create our own blogs and we should use it to make our presence felt and highlight the injustice done to us.
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BharatPremi
03-28 11:12 AM
At one end it is bad that USCIS moved back Nebraska Processing date to June 08 2007 (More than one month backword) but it looks like USCIS is preparing itself to kick EB3-India ahead... It is too early to say this confidently.. But my feeling is that USCIS will keep processing dates tied to June 2007 and will kick EB3-India ahead. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Though as per murthy's web site in May bulletin EB3-India dates will remain same, I am feeling that if my guess is correct then at least from June bulletin we will see 2 patterns 1) Nebraka processing date would not move ahead for some months or will
move ahead very slowly from June 08 2007
2) Eb3-India PD dates will move ahead speedily. To me it looks like USCIS is now prepared to kick EB3-I (Till June 2003 PD) lot out.
move ahead very slowly from June 08 2007
2) Eb3-India PD dates will move ahead speedily. To me it looks like USCIS is now prepared to kick EB3-I (Till June 2003 PD) lot out.
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mgautam
07-03 10:04 AM
This is a superb idea. I am game for it. Someone in the DC Area will also need to coordiante press releases to media so there is coverage for this.
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psk79
09-18 07:17 PM
Finally, EAD card ordered on principal application.... Spouse's was ordered and received 9/12. Finally, mine was PRODUCTION ORDERED this evening.... Any others in the same boat, don't panic... they are doing them in random order....
No word on FP or AP yet.. However, any address changers, make hte online change and they are very fast... I changed my address and the 2second business day I had two letters in the mail saying that the address has been updated on my and spouse's 765 applications.. couple of days later one more that 485 address was updated and after that nothing....
No word on FP or AP yet.. However, any address changers, make hte online change and they are very fast... I changed my address and the 2second business day I had two letters in the mail saying that the address has been updated on my and spouse's 765 applications.. couple of days later one more that 485 address was updated and after that nothing....
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wait4ever
09-03 08:54 PM
Did you receive teh physical cards by now?
My Case:
08/12/08 - Approval Notice Sent message (This is the only message I got)
08/18/08 - Received the Approval notice by post
No cards till now...:confused:
I actually spoke to Customer service and I got 2 very different responses.
1. Wait till you are an old man and then the cards may just come !! (Just Kidding ) she actually said wait for 90 days.
2. Another CSR told me that the TSC is having technical issues and they are not able to access the Biometric information on approved 485's in their systems. She advised me to download Form I-90 from the USCIS site and fill that in and send it in - if you have a minor on the petition then also send 2 passport size pictures of the minor - this will allow them to access the Biometric screen when they process the I-90. We will get Biometric notices and the Minor will get the card - the Grown ups will get the Cards after the Biometrics are uploaded.
I have not done this - eventhough I downloaded the I-90 forms - I took a INFOPASS appt and if they suggest that I should do a I-90 then I can get that done right on the spot - I am carrying the filled I-90 with me. Anyhow I-90 is usually submitted to correct errors on the card or to replace a card - however this woman sounded quite knowledgeable - but then there are issues realted to where the I-90 should be sent - this is specially complicated if your case has been transferred a few times like mine was.
Best is to check with the guys/gals at Infopass -meeting.
All this was from the rep at the TSC - so not sure if this is applicable to all centers.
AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I HEARD FROM THE TSC REP - PLEASE USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK - I AM NOT SENDING THE I-90 ON MY OWN.
I will post my Infoapss exp on the 9th of september.
My Case:
08/12/08 - Approval Notice Sent message (This is the only message I got)
08/18/08 - Received the Approval notice by post
No cards till now...:confused:
I actually spoke to Customer service and I got 2 very different responses.
1. Wait till you are an old man and then the cards may just come !! (Just Kidding ) she actually said wait for 90 days.
2. Another CSR told me that the TSC is having technical issues and they are not able to access the Biometric information on approved 485's in their systems. She advised me to download Form I-90 from the USCIS site and fill that in and send it in - if you have a minor on the petition then also send 2 passport size pictures of the minor - this will allow them to access the Biometric screen when they process the I-90. We will get Biometric notices and the Minor will get the card - the Grown ups will get the Cards after the Biometrics are uploaded.
I have not done this - eventhough I downloaded the I-90 forms - I took a INFOPASS appt and if they suggest that I should do a I-90 then I can get that done right on the spot - I am carrying the filled I-90 with me. Anyhow I-90 is usually submitted to correct errors on the card or to replace a card - however this woman sounded quite knowledgeable - but then there are issues realted to where the I-90 should be sent - this is specially complicated if your case has been transferred a few times like mine was.
Best is to check with the guys/gals at Infopass -meeting.
All this was from the rep at the TSC - so not sure if this is applicable to all centers.
AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I HEARD FROM THE TSC REP - PLEASE USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK - I AM NOT SENDING THE I-90 ON MY OWN.
I will post my Infoapss exp on the 9th of september.
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dhesha
08-27 12:05 PM
Yesterday we got our cards for myself and wife. Good luck to all who are still waiting.
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07-20 08:42 AM
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07-05 10:59 AM
Gandhigiri is a concept in an indian movie based on Gandhi principles. In which hero of the movie wins over anti-hero by sending flowers to him as per Gandhi principles for every wrong doing he does and he makes others also do the same who are effected by the anti-hero wrong doings..
hate to be so ignorant but what does Gandhigiri mean? I assume it's something Indain. Can you tell us non-indians what that it. (Anything to do with Mahatma?)
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kumar1
01-31 07:59 PM
Desi3933 - Thank you for sharing this link. Now I totally believe it.
As promised before, now after looking at DOL web site, I will shut up.
Since you asked -
Here is link from Department of Labor website. Read for yourself and I have included relevant quote.
Link (http://www.dol.gov/dol/allcfr/title_20/Part_655/20CFR655.731.htm)
(ii) Even if the H-1B nonimmigrant has not yet "entered into employment" with the employer (as described in paragraph (c)(6)(i) of this section), the employer that has had an LCA certified and an H-1B petition approved for the H-1B nonimmigrant shall pay the nonimmigrant the required wage beginning 30 days after the date the nonimmigrant first is admitted into the U.S. pursuant to the petition, or, if the nonimmigrant is present in the United States on the date of the approval of the petition, beginning 60 days after the date the nonimmigrant becomes eligible to work for the employer. For purposes of this latter requirement, the H-1B nonimmigrant is considered to be eligible to work for the employer upon the date of need set forth on the approved H-1B petition filed by the employer, or the date of adjustment of the nonimmigrant's status by INS, whichever is later.
____________________
Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin
As promised before, now after looking at DOL web site, I will shut up.
Since you asked -
Here is link from Department of Labor website. Read for yourself and I have included relevant quote.
Link (http://www.dol.gov/dol/allcfr/title_20/Part_655/20CFR655.731.htm)
(ii) Even if the H-1B nonimmigrant has not yet "entered into employment" with the employer (as described in paragraph (c)(6)(i) of this section), the employer that has had an LCA certified and an H-1B petition approved for the H-1B nonimmigrant shall pay the nonimmigrant the required wage beginning 30 days after the date the nonimmigrant first is admitted into the U.S. pursuant to the petition, or, if the nonimmigrant is present in the United States on the date of the approval of the petition, beginning 60 days after the date the nonimmigrant becomes eligible to work for the employer. For purposes of this latter requirement, the H-1B nonimmigrant is considered to be eligible to work for the employer upon the date of need set forth on the approved H-1B petition filed by the employer, or the date of adjustment of the nonimmigrant's status by INS, whichever is later.
____________________
Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin
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mqualique
05-01 03:49 PM
FOIA may be. Btw can you add a poll to this thread to see forum support?
Is suing the only option? USCIS could be making unintended mistake. We want to get clarification in a smoother and faster process before the flood gates open in October.
There should be some other legal-process to get written clarifications/interpretation etc on the law (like some kind of AILA discussion with CIS).
Is suing the only option? USCIS could be making unintended mistake. We want to get clarification in a smoother and faster process before the flood gates open in October.
There should be some other legal-process to get written clarifications/interpretation etc on the law (like some kind of AILA discussion with CIS).
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07-20 12:24 AM
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surabhi
04-23 05:18 PM
There is moral obligation too. Whenever you hire H-1s make sure most of them have dreams to get GC and settle down. Dont take risks in such a ways their dreams get shattered because of poor business practices. just to hire people dont run in your businesses on losses and in turn force yourself to shut down the business.
I think there is difference of opinion here. Since there is chance here that the thread is frequented by current and would-be employers I will try to articulate once again.
1. H1B is a legitimate business expense. It should be factored in as such by the employers.
2. Same is case with GC. But given the fact tht after I-140 it becomes portable, it is perfectly ethical in my opinon to ask employee to put up the expense.
3. H1B or not, employment is at will in US. USICS granting 3 year H1B does not imply employee is bound for 3 years either in letter or spirit of law.
4. Unless the business produces IPR or the employee is in position to lure away exisitng clientele, non-compete doesnt hold water. Employers should refrain from using non-compete as scare tactic.
5. As a corollary to point #3, having term around employment in lieu of h1b processing is illegal. The point of lost business because of employee left doesnt hold good. Employers can only claim non-compete or non-solicitation if the case is geniune. Lost business because employee left will never be upheld.
6. Unless doing revenue sharing (80-20 etc), it is illegal to withold , not pay wages.
7. If employee requests running payroll while not on project in revenue sharing mode ( see #6 above) it should be on cost to employee including employer contribution of taxes. this is indeed a favor to employee.
8. If business needs to let go an employee and employee wants to continue for immigration reasons, it should be on cost to employee including employer contribution of taxes. this is indeed a favor to employee.
I think there is difference of opinion here. Since there is chance here that the thread is frequented by current and would-be employers I will try to articulate once again.
1. H1B is a legitimate business expense. It should be factored in as such by the employers.
2. Same is case with GC. But given the fact tht after I-140 it becomes portable, it is perfectly ethical in my opinon to ask employee to put up the expense.
3. H1B or not, employment is at will in US. USICS granting 3 year H1B does not imply employee is bound for 3 years either in letter or spirit of law.
4. Unless the business produces IPR or the employee is in position to lure away exisitng clientele, non-compete doesnt hold water. Employers should refrain from using non-compete as scare tactic.
5. As a corollary to point #3, having term around employment in lieu of h1b processing is illegal. The point of lost business because of employee left doesnt hold good. Employers can only claim non-compete or non-solicitation if the case is geniune. Lost business because employee left will never be upheld.
6. Unless doing revenue sharing (80-20 etc), it is illegal to withold , not pay wages.
7. If employee requests running payroll while not on project in revenue sharing mode ( see #6 above) it should be on cost to employee including employer contribution of taxes. this is indeed a favor to employee.
8. If business needs to let go an employee and employee wants to continue for immigration reasons, it should be on cost to employee including employer contribution of taxes. this is indeed a favor to employee.
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apahilaj
11-06 04:19 PM
just sent e-mail to ombudsman. I would encourage all of you to send e-mail regarding FP delay. it did help in getting receipt notices. Please do it for FP also.
Hello,
Would you mind sharing some details as to what email did you write it to, any standard form we have to fill out, etc?
I would like to wait till the end of SR period before I bother my ombudsman.
Thanks.
Hello,
Would you mind sharing some details as to what email did you write it to, any standard form we have to fill out, etc?
I would like to wait till the end of SR period before I bother my ombudsman.
Thanks.
saketkapur
05-10 05:26 PM
Guys life is not fair......the only way any media or congressional attention can be gained is by playing the age old tested and tried method shwon to work even if its a low blow..
DISCRIMINATION based on national origin......we need to make it about nationality and RACE........
The illegals are playing the card and most probably will get what they want........
Nobody gives a rats ass if we played by the rules or not.......rules change, games change...we need to take a more united(join forces with all immigrants irrespective of their status) and fight on a common platform.......we should get to make anybody who opposes us on whatever ground(justified or not) declared into a RACIST.......
Our opposition is not divided we cannot afford to be either.....remember JO JEETA WAHI SIKANDER.......Victory is all that counts....just my 2 cents........
DISCRIMINATION based on national origin......we need to make it about nationality and RACE........
The illegals are playing the card and most probably will get what they want........
Nobody gives a rats ass if we played by the rules or not.......rules change, games change...we need to take a more united(join forces with all immigrants irrespective of their status) and fight on a common platform.......we should get to make anybody who opposes us on whatever ground(justified or not) declared into a RACIST.......
Our opposition is not divided we cannot afford to be either.....remember JO JEETA WAHI SIKANDER.......Victory is all that counts....just my 2 cents........
needhelp!
09-16 12:00 PM
Someone reading the thread for the first time should be able to figure out what the plan is.
man-woman-gc.. can you start a new thread, since you're the one maintaining the spreadsheet?
man-woman-gc.. can you start a new thread, since you're the one maintaining the spreadsheet?
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